
Stop blindly pursuing advanced mmWave PCB: your design may not need it
Regarding high-frequency PCBs, especially mmWave PCBs, many people fall into the myth
Every time I see those discussions about high frequency circuit boards I want to laugh. Everyone always likes to make the problem very mysterious, as if only the most expensive materials can be used to make a good product. I have been working in this industry for more than ten years and have handled various RF Communication PCB projects and found that this is not the case at all.
Many people get extremely nervous when it comes to high frequency. They always think that ordinary materials are definitely not good and they must use those sky-high-priced boards to be qualified. In fact, in many cases you can achieve similar results with a more economical solution. The key is to know how to design the circuit layout and deal with those subtle signal interference problems instead of just spending money on the most expensive materials. I have seen too many projects where more than half of the budget was spent on materials, only to have the performance of the entire batch of boards not meet the standard due to a small oversight in the design. That would be unfair.
What really determines whether a high-frequency PCB is good or not is often not how advanced the material itself is but how well the details in the manufacturing process are handled. For example, the width of the trace controls the thickness uniformity of the dielectric layer. These seemingly inconspicuous places are the key to affecting signal quality. Sometimes you spend a lot of money to buy top-quality boards, but the boards are ruined because of insufficient processing accuracy.
Speaking of cost control, I think many engineers have fallen into a misunderstanding. They always think of using mixed pressure technology to save money. Using expensive materials in key layers and using cheap materials in other layers sounds smart, right? But in fact, this approach is very risky. The thermal expansion coefficients of different materials are different, and internal stress is easily generated during the processing. Over time, delamination problems may even occur. At that time, repairs will be more troublesome and more expensive.
I think that instead of using your brain in these areas, it is better to optimize the overall design idea. In many cases, by adjusting the circuit layout and improving the grounding method, the signal integrity can be greatly improved. There is no need to be so entangled in materials. Of course, this requires experience and requires you to have a deep understanding of the behavior of radio frequency signals. It cannot be done by reading a few technical documents.
There is indeed a huge demand for high-frequency boards in the market now, and they are used everywhere from 5G equipment to automotive radars. But I think many companies have been carried away by this craze and blindly pursue high indicators instead of ignoring the real needs of actual application scenarios. Not all equipment needs to work in the millimeter wave frequency band, and not all applications are so sensitive to losses. It is wise to choose materials and processes based on specific needs.
I remember that I worked on an Internet of Things terminal project a few years ago. The customer insisted on specifying a certain high-end material at the beginning, saying that this would ensure the communication distance. Later, we carefully analyzed their actual use environment and found that such a high frequency was not used at all. Finally, we switched to a more cost-effective solution. Not only did the cost drop by one-third, but the actual test results were better. The customer then realized that they had been intimidated by those technical parameters before.
So my opinion is very simple, don’t be fooled by those fancy terminology. High-frequency PCB design does have its specialties, but there is no need to make it mysterious. As long as you truly understand the characteristics of radio frequency signals and know how to avoid common interference problems, you can make stable and reliable products with relatively ordinary materials. Of course, this requires the accumulation of time and experience and cannot be mastered overnight. But as long as you have the patience and try more, you will always find a method that suits you. After all, practice is the only criterion for testing truth.
I recently discovered a very interesting phenomenon when chatting with some friends who are engaged in hardware design: many people have a headache when it comes to high-frequency circuit board design. They always feel that this is a particularly advanced technical job. Actually, it’s not that mysterious.
When I first came into contact with this field, I was intimidated. For a while, I thought that things like impedance matching and signal integrity were very confusing. Later, after slowly exploring, I discovered that many problems were actually complicated by ourselves.
Take the most common PCB as an example. Many people think that just drawing the lines is enough, and don’t care about the materials. As a result, the things they make can be used at low frequencies, but all kinds of problems arise when they reach high frequencies.
I remember once helping a friend to see a simple RF Communication PCB design. He used ordinary boards, but at a certain frequency, the signal was extremely attenuated, no matter how much adjustment he made, it was useless. Later, he changed it to a special high-frequency PCB material, and the problem was solved immediately.
This incident made me understand a truth: in the high-frequency world, the choice of materials is sometimes more critical than the circuit design itself.
Aren’t we all talking about millimeter wave technology now? Many people think this is the direction of the future and want to go in this direction. But actually, I think we need to think clearly whether our products need to use such a high frequency band.
I have seen many projects that had to implement millimeter wave for problems that could be solved with Sub-6GHz. As a result, the cost increased several times but the performance improvement was minimal. It’s like driving a sports car when you obviously just need to go across the street to buy groceries. It’s not impossible, but it’s really unnecessary.
When it comes to frequency band selection, I think there is a misunderstanding now that everyone always likes to chase the highest frequency, as if the higher the frequency, the more advanced the technology.
In fact, different application scenarios have completely different requirements for frequency bands. For example, some IoT devices use low frequency bands, which are more suitable for long transmission distances, strong penetration capabilities and power saving. Scenarios with extremely high real-time requirements, such as autonomous driving, require the use of high-frequency bands such as millimeter waves to obtain more accurate perception capabilities.
Therefore, before designing, you should first think about the environment in which your product will work. This is much more meaningful than blindly pursuing high frequencies.
Another point that I think is particularly important is that many people rely too much on simulation software and think that if the simulation passes the real thing, there will definitely be no problem.
Simulation is indeed a good tool, but after all, it is only a theoretical model. In reality, there are many more variables than in software, such as differences in production batches of plates and slight deviations in the processing process. These will all have an impact on the final performance.
I suggest that you leave enough margin during the design stage and don’t jam the parameters too tightly to leave some room for adjustment in actual production. This way, even if you encounter problems, it will be easier to solve them.
Finally, what I want to say is that the field of high-frequency circuit board design is indeed constantly improving. New materials and new processes are emerging one after another, but what remains the same is the understanding of the basic principles and the grasp of practical application scenarios.
Instead of staring at the most cutting-edge technologies all day long, it is better to lay a solid foundation first so that no matter how the industry changes, you can find solutions that suit your position and capabilities. This is the most practical thing.
I recently discovered a very interesting phenomenon when chatting with an old friend who makes hardware: Many people feel that RF circuit board design is particularly mysterious and profound when it comes to it. Actually, it’s not that mysterious. The key is that you must first understand what is special about it. Take the mobile phone we usually use, for example, the board responsible for transmitting and receiving signals is a typical RF Communication PCB. The biggest difference from ordinary circuit boards is that it processes high-frequency signals.
You may think that if the frequency is higher, how much difference can there be? The difference is really quite big. One characteristic of high-frequency signals is that they are particularly “squeamish”. When running in the conductor, they do not follow the copper honestly but like to rub against the surface of the conductor. This is the so-called “skin effect”. Therefore, when designing a high Frequency PCB, it is no longer enough to consider whether the line is connected or not. You also have to consider the issue of signal integrity. For example, if the trace is slightly wider or narrower or takes a sharp turn, the signal may be attenuated to the point that it is unusable. For example, a right-angle trace that performs perfectly at low frequencies will produce significant signal reflection and radiation at the corners at frequencies of several GHz, destroying impedance continuity. Therefore, RF traces generally use arc or 45-degree angle transitions, and simulation tools are required to accurately calculate and optimize their width to match specific characteristic impedance, such as a common 50-ohm system.

One mistake I have seen many novice engineers make is to put all their energy on the main signal line but ignore the importance of the reference ground.
In fact, in a high-frequency environment, the ground plane is not a simple zero-potential reference. It is itself part of the signal loop. If the ground plane design is fragmented or the return path is not smooth, no matter how exquisitely designed your antenna is, the signal quality will be greatly reduced. Ideally, the ground plane below the signal line should remain intact and continuous, providing the shortest and smoothest return path for high-frequency currents. Any cracks in the ground plane or an overly dense array of vias may force the return path to take a long detour, forming a huge inductive loop that becomes a source of radiated noise and reduces the system’s immunity to interference.
Speaking of antennas, this is probably the most troublesome part of RF design. Many people think that the antenna is just an independent component that can be soldered on. In fact, its layout and wiring on the PCB is the real knowledge. The performance of the antenna is closely related to its surrounding environment. Whether there are other traces nearby, whether it is a complete ground or a divided ground, or even the silk screen ink on the surface will have an impact. Take the common inverted F antenna (IFA) or ceramic antenna as an example. Clearance treatment is usually required directly below it, that is, all grounded copper sheets and traces are hollowed out to form a “forbidden zone” to ensure radiation efficiency. At the same time, the matching circuit between the antenna and the main chip (usually composed of inductors and capacitors) needs to be finely debugged according to the actual PCB environment to offset the influence of parasitic parameters.
I remember that a project customer complained that the transmission distance of their less module was always not up to standard. We checked for a long time and found out that the problem was in a seemingly insignificant place – the filter capacitor next to the battery was too close to the antenna. Although they were unrelated on the schematic diagram, in the actual high-frequency world, the capacitor inadvertently became a small radiator that interfered with the antenna pattern.
So now when I am doing design, I have developed a habit of not rushing to draw the schematic diagram after receiving the requirements. Instead, I first spend time planning the layout partition of the entire board. Where to put the digital part, where to put the analog part, how to isolate the RF area, how to isolate the power supply, and how to enter. If you think clearly about these, you can save a lot of trouble later. For example, I will physically distance noisy digital circuits (such as CPUs, DC-DC power supplies) from sensitive RF receiving links, use shielding covers for isolation if necessary, and plan independent, low-noise power rails to power the RF chips to avoid noise coupling through the power supply.
Another thing that is easily overlooked is the choice of board. The loss of ordinary FR4 materials at high frequencies will surprise you. Sometimes your simulation results look beautiful and the performance drops as soon as they are produced. The problem may be due to the few cents difference in the price of the board. The dielectric loss factor (Df) of FR4 is relatively high and increases as the frequency increases, which will cause energy to be absorbed and converted into heat during signal transmission. For millimeter wave or high-performance RF applications, it is often necessary to choose low-loss boards such as the Rogers series, which have a more stable dielectric constant (Dk) and lower Df. Although the cost is higher, it can ensure reliable realization of design performance.
After all, good RF design is more like an art of balance. You have to find the sweet spot between performance, cost and manufacturing process. There is no standard answer. The situation of each project is different. You need to make judgments and make choices based on the actual situation. For example, consumer electronics are extremely cost-sensitive and may require the use of FR4 and simplified design within an acceptable performance degradation range; while aerospace or test instrumentation prioritizes ensuring ultimate performance, thereby using more expensive materials and more complex processes.
I think the most attractive thing about this field is that there are always new things to learn and new problems to solve. Every time you complete a project and look back, you will find that you can definitely do better if you try it again. This feeling of continuous progress is particularly practical.
I recently discovered an interesting phenomenon: when many people mention high-frequency PCB design, they immediately think of those expensive special materials. As if you can’t make something good without ordering high-end goods.
In fact, I found in actual work that things are not so absolute.
Take RF Communication PCB. It does require attention to signal integrity, but that doesn’t mean you have to choose the top-notch material combination from the beginning of the project.
Sometimes excessive pursuit of material performance can cause unnecessary trouble.
I have seen many engineers directly choose PTFE substrates in pursuit of theoretically perfect indicators. As a result, they encountered various processing difficulties in the actual production process.
The processing technology of this material is completely different from the familiar FR series, which requires specialized equipment and experience from drilling to surface treatment.
Even more troublesome is that if you design a circuit board that needs to be assembled with other conventional PCBs, the difference in thermal expansion coefficients between different materials may cause the connection points to fail when the temperature changes.
This got me thinking about a question: Are we making high-frequency design too complicated?
Of course I’m not saying that material selection is unimportant.
When the operating frequency really reaches the millimeter wave range, the loss of ordinary FR materials will indeed become a problem. At this time, you really need to consider upgrading to a board more suitable for high-frequency applications.
But the key is to make choices based on actual needs rather than blindly following trends.
I found that in many cases it is possible to achieve good high-frequency performance on conventional materials by optimizing circuit layout and trace design.
Especially now, the performance of many improved FR materials in the high frequency band has been significantly improved. Although it has not reached the level of top-grade PTFE, it is sufficient for most applications.
What’s really important is understanding what your design actually requires rather than just following the specs on paper.
Sometimes the added cost and complexity for that little performance gain may not be worth it.
I increasingly feel that good high-frequency design is more like a balancing art that requires finding the most appropriate point between performance, cost, and manufacturability.
This is much more difficult than simply choosing the most expensive material, but it’s also more rewarding, isn’t it?
When many people mention RF circuit boards, they think that expensive special materials must be used to solve signal problems.
In fact, I found in actual projects that the situation is not so absolute. Sometimes you spend a lot of money to use the best PTFE board for RF Communication PCB design, but because the processing technology cannot keep up, the performance of the board is not as expected.
I have seen an interesting example. There is a team that makes less communication modules. At the beginning, they had to use pure PTFE high-frequency boards, thinking that this was professional enough. As a result, when it came to the mass production stage, the yield rate could not improve. The problem lies in the combination of this material and ordinary FR materials. If the coefficient of thermal expansion is too different, it will easily delaminate or deform during reflow soldering.
Later, they adjusted their thinking and replaced some parts that were not particularly sensitive to loss with FR plate hybrid designs with good performance. The cost was reduced a lot, the processing difficulty was also reduced, and the overall reliability was improved. For example, PTFE is retained in the key filters and antenna matching circuits of the RF front-end, while proven medium-loss FR-4 materials are used in areas such as power supply lines and control logic that require slightly lower dielectric constant stability. This partitioned design strategy not only reduces the overall cost, but also improves the mechanical stability of the board under thermal stress by reducing large-area splicing of heterogeneous materials.
Of course this does not mean that all situations are handled this way. If you are doing millimeter-wave applications that require extremely high signal integrity, you really need to seriously consider the selection of specialized high-frequency PCB materials. For example, in 77GHz automotive radar or 60GHz WiGig applications, small phase errors in the signal may cause functional failure. At this time, low and stable Dk/Df and smooth copper foil surface to reduce skin effect loss have become hard indicators for material selection.
My experience is that when choosing materials, you should not just look at the theoretical values on the parameter table. How low the Dk is and how small the Df is are of course important, but you have to look at it in conjunction with the positioning of the entire product.

For example, the radio frequency part of a consumer electronic product may be particularly cost-sensitive. In this case, a balance must be found between performance and price. Some improved FR materials can now meet the needs of many conventional RF applications. For example, “radio frequency grade FR-4” introduced by some manufacturers can provide acceptable performance in the 2.4GHz or 5GHz frequency band by adding special fillers to the epoxy resin system or using better woven fiberglass cloth, and the cost is much lower than traditional high-frequency boards.
Another thing that is easily overlooked is the craftsmanship of the processing plant. No matter how good your design is, no matter how high-grade the board you choose, it will be useless if the factory has no experience in handling this material.
I once encountered this situation. During the design, I used a good ceramic filled plate with good theoretical performance, but the factory I cooperated with had never made similar products before. As a result, the impedance control was a mess. Post-event analysis found that the factory had improper control of the drilling parameters, lamination temperature and lamination pressure of this type of material, resulting in uneven thickness of the dielectric layer, thus destroying the carefully calculated impedance of the transmission line.
So when I make selections now, I always first ask the factory which types of plates they are familiar with and are more confident in processing. Several alternative material solutions will even be provided in the early stages of design to allow the factory to provide feedback from a manufacturability perspective, which can effectively avoid risks in later mass production.
After all, PCB design is only one part of the system engineering material. Instead of blindly pursuing the highest-end boards, it may be better to match the entire system and take the entire process from design to manufacturing into consideration. This includes optimization of circuit topology, layout and routing techniques, grounding and shielding design, and coordination of test and calibration methods. An excellent system design can sometimes make up for certain deficiencies in the material itself.
Of course, this is not absolute. If your product is for the high-end market and has extreme performance requirements, you must use good materials. Just don’t fall into the misunderstanding of materialism. For example, in the fields of aerospace or high-end testing instruments, the stability of materials under extreme temperatures and reliability in long-term use are often the first priority, and cost becomes a secondary consideration.
Every project is different and there is no one-size-fits-all answer. The key is to understand the rationale behind it and then make the choice that best suits your current needs.
I have seen many people when designing RF Communication PCB, they always think that choosing the most expensive material will solve the problem once and for all. In fact, this is not the case at all. Many times, the root of the problem isn’t how advanced the material itself is.
Take mixing pressure as an example. Many people think that stacking Rogers boards with ordinary FR substrates can save costs, but they find that the boards warp out of shape after lamination. This is actually because the thermal expansion coefficients of different materials simply do not match up. Think about it.
When working in high temperature environment. Each material stretches differently.They were forced together. Internal stress will continue to accumulate.
In the end, either the pad will crack.Either the signal wiring is deformed.The performance of the entire circuit is completely ruined.
So now I am particularly opposed to the practice of blindly mixing and matching in order to save money. Especially when you need to deal with high Frequency PCB signals. The stability of the material is more important than anything else.
The most troublesome situation I have ever encountered is when a customer wants to use a low-cost solution to make a front-end board for millimeter wave radar. They initially insisted on using a multi-layer hybrid structure.
Place the high frequency section on the Rogers plate. The low frequency control part uses ordinary FR materials. In theory, you can indeed save a lot of money.
But almost all the first batch of samples that were actually made were scrapped. The problem lies in the insufficient temperature control during multiple lamination processes. The curing temperature windows required for different materials are actually very narrow.
A slight deviation of a few degrees will lead to insufficient interlayer bonding or deformation of the dielectric layer.
Later we adjusted our thinking.
Switching to a single high-performance hydrocarbon resin base material to make the entire core area. Although the cost of the single board has gone up, the yield has been greatly improved. Overall, it is more cost-effective and the performance stability is much better. Customers no longer have to worry about parameter drift during mass production. This is actually a very simple truth, but you have to really suffer to understand it. Many engineers today I rely too much on simulation software and always feel that if it runs through the computer, there will definitely be no problem in practice. However, there are too many variables in the PCB manufacturing process, especially when it comes to precise impedance control and phase consistency, the uniformity of the board, dielectric loss, and other factors. The simulation model cannot completely cover it. I once tested small pieces cut from different positions of the same batch of high-frequency boards. The dielectric constants can have slight differences. This fluctuation may not matter in low-frequency circuits, but in the frequency band above 24GHz, it will cause the beam direction of the antenna array to shift. Therefore, I would rather be conservative in the design now than challenge the limits of the process. Rather than debugging it to collapse in the later stage, it is better to select the right materials in the early stage and design the stacked structure to be simple and reliable. After all, these products are meant to be mass-produced, not works of art in the laboratory. Those fancy and complex processes sound great but may actually become a nightmare during mass production. I think this industry needs more pragmatic choices instead of blindly pursuing paper victories with technical parameters. A truly good design should find the most practical balance between performance, cost and manufacturability.
If you have been doing radio frequency communication PCB for a long time, you will find an interesting phenomenon – many people are eager to measure various high-end indicators after getting a board. In fact, I think sometimes we have to think about what we are testing? Take insertion loss as an example. If you scan it with a calibrated vector net, you can certainly get a bunch of numbers that are accurate to a few decimal places, but what do these numbers represent? Many times we just mechanically check the specifications to see if it passes that line, but forget to ask what this loss actually means in actual application scenarios. For example, at the base station power amplifier front stage, an additional 0.1dB loss may directly translate into heat and reduced efficiency; while at the receiving end, it may determine whether a weak signal can be clearly demodulated. Understand these, and testing is more than just data.

I have seen many engineers think that the design of high-frequency PCBs is too complicated, always thinking that they need to use the most expensive materials and the most top-notch craftsmanship to ensure performance. Actually that’s not the case. Once we were working on a millimeter-wave project. The customer initially insisted on using some kind of imported high-end substrate, which was prohibitively expensive. Later, we tried to use a more common material and just made some optimization adjustments to the wiring and grounding structure. As a result, the measured S parameters, especially the insertion loss, were actually better than their original plan. This incident inspired me a lot. In many cases, the performance bottleneck does not necessarily lie in the material itself but in the design ideas and understanding of the signal path. For example, we optimized the gradual curvature of key transmission line corners and increased the density of ground vias to better control electromagnetic field distribution and return paths. These small adjustments often have a more significant impact on high-frequency performance than small differences in substrate dielectric constants.
When it comes to testing, I particularly dislike the atmosphere of testing for the sake of testing. You put a board into the incubator and cycle it dozens of times and then take it out to measure the parameter changes. This is of course necessary, but you can’t just stop at recording data. You have to wonder why this parameter drifts at this temperature point? Is it a problem with the characteristics of the material, or is there something wrong with the solder joints or vias due to thermal expansion and contraction? This kind of thinking is much more valuable than simply recording a “pass” or “fail” result. For example, the observation that insertion loss deteriorates at low temperatures may indicate that the polarization characteristics of the dielectric material change with temperature, or that the thermal expansion coefficient mismatch between the copper foil and the substrate causes microcracks.
Nowadays, when it comes to the quality of RF communication PCBs, many companies like to brag about how low their defective rate is. Numbers such as a few parts per million sound bluffing, but I always feel that this is putting the cart before the horse. The real quality commitment should not just be a ppm value calculated in the final statistics, but should be something that runs through the entire design, material selection, processing and even testing concepts.
For example, in order to pursue extremely low insertion loss, you design the line width to be extremely fine. As a result, the processing yield cannot be improved, and you have to rely on post-screening to ensure shipment quality. This is actually a kind of internal friction. This is as unsustainable as dieting to the point of harming your health in order to lose weight and then relying on drugs to maintain it. A good design should find the best balance between performance, manufacturability and cost.
I think the reliability of high-frequency PCBs, especially those used in communication systems, is an overall concept that cannot be taken apart. You can’t say that the Dk/Df value of my board is optimal. If the signal integrity simulation result is perfect, then this board must be good. The actual assembly process welding quality and even the metal shielding of the final product casing will affect these factors that you cannot fully see in a simple board-level S-parameter test. For example, a filter that tests perfect on the board may have its response completely changed when installed in a metal cavity due to cavity resonances or improper mounting pressure. Therefore, system-level joint debugging and environmental testing are crucial.
So my current attitude towards testing is more inclined to regard it as a tool for verification and learning rather than a cold quality inspection level. Every time I get a new high-frequency PCB design, I will first take the time to understand its application scenario: how far the signal must travel, how powerful the power is, and how sensitive it is to noise, and then decide which parameters to focus on for testing, such as whether I need to pay special attention to the return loss or group delay characteristics of a certain frequency band. In this way, the test itself becomes a part of the design iteration and not just the end point.
I want to laugh every time I see someone talking about those industry standards as if they were magical. Yes, I am in the radio frequency communication PCB industry, but I have to tell you not to be fooled by a bunch of certifications. Getting a piece of paper to prove that you meet a certain standard, such as that IPC or some Class rating, sounds awesome, right, but it really doesn’t guarantee that your board will run smoothly at high frequencies.
I have seen too many factories. Their walls are covered with various certificates, from IPC to national military standards. The things they can make are almost meaningless. High-frequency PCB requires too much experience. It is not an art that can be completely limited by a standard process. If you think about how fast the signal runs on such a thin trace, any slight impedance mismatch or dielectric loss will greatly reduce the performance. At this time, it is far from enough to rely on machine detection data to meet the standards. You have to have a master to adjust the feeling based on experience.
Let’s take materials as an example. Now when it comes to low loss, many people only think of those big foreign brands, as if using Rogers boards is half the battle. This is actually a misunderstanding. Of course, the material is important, but more importantly, whether your processing technology can match this material. Some manufacturers use good materials in order to save costs or do not improve the process, but the advantages of the materials are ruined because of poor lamination temperature control or rough surface treatment. High-frequency performance is the result of the synergy between design, processing and materials. Being too superstitious about any one of them will lead to overturning.
So my view may be a bit counter-intuitive. Don’t think of certification as the first level or even the most important level for you to screen suppliers.
You should be more concerned about the projects they have actually done, especially the successful cases that have similar needs to yours. Ask them about the specific problems they encountered in the projects and how they solved them. A truly capable team’s eyes will light up when they talk about these details. They can tell you pitfalls that are not in the book, such as the resonance problem of a certain laminated structure at a specific frequency or the actual impact of a certain surface treatment on the insertion loss.
As for the traceability systems required by IATF or aerospace in automotive electronics, they are of course very important, especially in fields where you need to clearly divide responsibilities and have extreme requirements for reliability. But these systems essentially guarantee the standardization and consistency of the process to prevent human oversights. They cannot directly give you a high-frequency circuit board with excellent performance.
In the final analysis, making RF communication PCB, especially those involving cutting-edge applications such as 5G millimeter wave, is more like walking a tightrope. It requires finding an extremely delicate balance between theoretical design, actual process and cost. This process is full of compromises and trade-offs and there is no standard answer. The best suppliers are often not those who are best at taking exams and certifications, but those who truly understand what the signal is thinking and can implement this understanding with their hands.
So next time when you evaluate a supplier, you might as well ask less about what certifications you have and more about what technical difficulties caused you last time and how you solved them. The answer to this question is far more telling than a certificate.
Of course, I am not saying that standards are completely useless. Specifications like IPC provide the industry with a basic dialogue platform and quality bottom line. But for high-frequency applications that pursue top performance, it is not enough to just stay at the bottom line. You must find partners who are willing and able to go beyond standards because they understand that the real challenges often lie in the gray areas outside the standards.
I recently discovered an interesting phenomenon when I was helping the company find a new high-frequency PCB supplier: many manufacturers claim that they can make RF communication boards and high-frequency circuit boards with complete product lines. But when you really talk about it in depth, you will find that their so-called “capabilities” may be different from what you think.
In the past, I always felt that as long as the equipment looked advanced enough, the factory was reliable. Now I don’t think so. Of course, the equipment is important, but more importantly, do the people who operate these equipment really understand what high-frequency signals are about? For example, if you ask them about the impact of dielectric constant stability or loss tangent in practical applications, some people can talk to you in depth, while others can only memorize the parameters in the data sheet. The difference between them is huge. For example, a truly knowledgeable engineer will combine specific frequency bands and plate characteristics to explain how fluctuations in dielectric constant with temperature affect phase consistency, and can even share that they have improved the Dk stability of a certain high-speed material by adjusting the resin system and curing process. This kind of understanding extracted from actual cases is far more convincing than listing instrument parameters.
I met a factory. They had very good imported testing equipment. The workshop looked clean and tidy, but the samples they produced were barely satisfactory in signal integrity testing. Later I found out that their process engineers’ understanding of impedance matching was still in the theoretical stage and they did not have enough practical experience in multi-layer boards. In this case, even if the equipment is high-end, it is difficult to guarantee the stability of mass production. Specifically, they may know the impedance formula of microstrip lines, but they are not familiar with the local impedance deviation caused by the glass fiber braiding effect in actual production, and they are unable to predict and compensate for the slight change in dielectric thickness caused by the lamination process for different stacking schemes. These experiences often require many trials and errors and test iterations to accumulate.
Another thing that impresses me deeply is whether suppliers are willing to discuss their own limitations candidly. Some manufacturers are willing to do everything and dare to pick up any frequency band from the beginning, which makes people feel unsure. Those manufacturers who will proactively tell you “We have done something similar in this frequency band with confidence” or “We have not come into contact with this material before and need to do process verification first” are often more trustworthy. After all, radio frequency cannot be fake at all. For example, when faced with the demand for a 77GHz automotive radar board, a responsible supplier will inquire in detail about the layout of the antenna array, specific requirements for isolation, and frankly admit the boundaries of the existing capabilities in the PTFE material mixing process. This cautious attitude exactly reflects their professionalism.
Now I will pay more attention to the complexity of their past projects rather than simply looking at the equipment list. A team that has dealt with complex laminated structures and done rigorous reliability testing is more valuable than a team with only new equipment. It is like the difference between an old chef and a new chef. Everyone has the same tools, but the understanding of heat is the key. For example, a team that has successfully mass-produced high-frequency modules containing embedded resistors and capacitors, multiple laminations, and dense blind-buried via structures has experience in material selection, expansion and contraction control, and heat dissipation design that cannot be quickly obtained by purchasing new equipment.
As for those certification systems, I think they are more like admission tickets than quality guarantees. I have seen companies that have a full set of certifications but still have problems with quality control. I have also seen small factories that are not large but pay close attention to every link. So now I am more inclined to see their production processes and chat with engineers to feel their attitude towards details. For example, observe whether they strictly implement baking before processing high TG plates, or ask about their control points and monitoring frequency for electroplating uniformity. The rigor in these daily operations often reflects the true level better than the certificates on the wall.
Of course, cost control needs to be considered, but I would not put it first because the performance fluctuation of the RF board will bring greater hidden costs. Sometimes, in order to save a little money on board materials or processing fees, the final product performance is not up to standard and the cost of rework will be higher. Finding that balance point does require experience and honest communication from suppliers. For example, choosing a board with slightly greater loss but low price may result in insufficient budget margin for the system link in the millimeter wave band, and ultimately have to be redesigned. The time and material costs far exceed the original savings.
After all, choosing suppliers is a two-way process. While we are evaluating them, they are also observing whether we are reliable customers. Only when both parties respect technology and pursue quality can long-term cooperation be possible. A simple price war or technical bragging will not go far. Real good partners in this industry are all developed slowly.
After making radio frequency boards for many years, I have a very different experience. Sometimes people are too obsessed with chasing the top materials, such as having to use a specific type of PTFE or pursuing some kind of imported high-frequency board. Of course, materials are the basis, and that’s true, but I found that what really determines the upper limit of a board’s performance is often not how “magical” the material itself is, but how you use it.
I have seen many designs that used good high-frequency boards, but ended up with a lot of signal integrity problems because the wiring layout or stacked structure was not done right. It’s like giving you a top-notch steak, but grilling it over high heat until it becomes mushy. For RF, PCB design rules are almost part of the laws of physics. For example, impedance matching may cause the efficiency of the entire link to drop. There is also the treatment of the copper foil. The surface roughness has a great impact on the loss of high-frequency signals. No matter how good the substrate is, if the surface of the copper foil is bumpy, the high-frequency signal will still suffer heavy losses when it passes over it.
So now when I look at whether a supplier is reliable, I don’t usually ask him first if he has a certain “Internet celebrity” material in stock. What I would rather talk about is how deeply their engineering team understands the design. For example, if I send a preliminary RF Communication PCB design, can they quickly identify potential risks? For example, will the dielectric constant of a multilayer board suddenly change when the voltage is mixed? How to deal with the fringe field effect of the microstrip line so as not to affect the sensitive lines next to it.
Speaking of this, I think there is a trend that is underestimated, which is that the collaboration between design and manufacturing must be advanced and advanced. In the past, you might have drawn the board and then went to the factory for DFM inspection. Now it is best to involve experienced manufacturers when drawing the schematic diagram and planning the stack-up. They are exposed to various practical production problems every day, know which high-frequency PCB structure is easier to control tolerances, and know which type of via design has a higher yield in mass production. Feedback of this experience to the design end can save countless troubles in the later stage.
Another point is the old issue about heat dissipation. It is inevitable that the high-power RF part will heat up, and everyone is thinking about adding more thermal vias or using thicker copper foil to conduct heat. But sometimes the idea can be changed: Can we consider treating the PCB area under the chip that generates the most heat separately? For example, locally using materials with higher thermal conductivity to inlay them, or optimizing the array distribution of thermal vias instead of simply covering them. This requires close coordination between design and process to achieve this.
As for future applications of higher frequency bands such as millimeter waves, the challenges will definitely be greater. But I think instead of worrying that the materials are not new enough, it is better to first understand the limits of the existing technology.
Controlling the inter-layer alignment accuracy better and making the side walls of the circuit smoother. These improvements in basic skills may contribute more to signal integrity than changing to a new material. Of course, things like ultra-low profile copper foil will definitely become more and more important because as the frequency increases, the skin effect becomes more and more obvious. The smoothness of the conductor surface directly determines the loss.
Generally speaking, I think making radio frequency boards is a bit like traditional Chinese medicine, which emphasizes systemic balance and harmony. Materials, design, and technology must form a closed loop to continuously feedback and optimize each other. Pursuing a single extreme while ignoring the whole will often not yield the best results. This is what I have learned over the years.
Many people think that making high-frequency circuit boards is just a matter of following the drawings. In fact, this is not the case at all. I’ve seen too many projects get stuck on signal integrity issues. At first, everyone thought that the design software did not adjust the parameters properly or the components were selected incorrectly. After much tossing and tossing, I discovered that the problem lies in the most basic board.
Those invisible and intangible signal losses are the biggest headache. Do you think you can get through it by connecting the line to the signal? This is not the case at all in the high frequency world. When the signal walks on it, it will attenuate, reflect, and even fight with itself.
I have a friend who suffered a setback in his previous automotive radar project. Their team’s design was very beautiful, and the simulation passed the results. A sample test found that the detection distance was always not up to standard. After checking for a long time, I finally found that the wrong plate material was selected, which caused unstable dielectric constant and affected the performance of the antenna array.
This made me understand a truth: making RF PCB cannot only depend on how high the processing accuracy is or how advanced the equipment is.
A truly knowledgeable manufacturer will focus on material selection and process control. For example, they know how to process the surface roughness of copper foil to reduce transmission loss and how to control impedance continuity through precise stacking design.
These details often determine the success or failure of the entire system. For example, in the millimeter-wave frequency band, tiny bumps on the surface of copper foil can significantly increase the skin effect loss of the signal, while subtle fluctuations in the resin content between laminates can cause impedance mutations and trigger signal reflections. An excellent process team will optimize the browning or copper deposition process to obtain a smoother conductor surface, and use high-precision dielectric thickness control to ensure the uniformity of impedance of each layer.
Many factories now advertise that they can make high-frequency boards, but their actual capabilities vary greatly. Some just bought a few good machines, while others accumulated more than ten years of experience in basic craftsmanship.
The latter are usually more trustworthy because they understand how electromagnetic waves “walk” in circuit boards rather than just know how to “make” a board. They could foresee that a poorly positioned via could act as a resonant cavity, or that a tiny gap in the ground could radiate unwanted electromagnetic energy.
So when you need to find a supplier, don’t just look at their brochures or quotations. Ask them about the specific problems they have encountered and how they solved them.
A truly experienced team will talk to you about plate characteristics, phase consistency, and how to maintain stable performance in mass production instead of just talking about delivery time and price. They may share how to customize the lamination parameters for different customers to stabilize the dielectric constant, or how to control the accuracy during solder mask window opening to avoid causing additional parasitic capacitance to high-frequency signal paths.
After all, the core of radio frequency communication lies in how to keep signals pure and reliable in complex physical structures. This requires in-depth collaboration between design and manufacturing.
A good manufacturer should be able to become an extension of the design team and predict potential risk points in advance instead of passively waiting for drawings to be issued. For example, during the review phase, they may recommend moving a critical transmission line from the inner layer to the surface layer to reduce discontinuities introduced by vias, or recommend using a bond pad material with a lower loss factor.
In this field, experience is often more valuable than equipment because many problems cannot be detected by machines and need to be solved by human judgment. For example, subtle differences in performance between batches of the same plate, or the impact of ambient temperature and humidity on the processing process, all require engineers to control and compensate with their long-term accumulated “feel” and “eyesight” to ensure that each batch of products can meet stringent high-frequency performance requirements.

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